Noah is one person - I'd have a lot of questions for him!
Muddy Waters
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Of all the bible characters would you like any as a friend ?
by Chook intax collector guy might help out..
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JW renaming things: "It's Not this, it's ....."
by Muddy Waters inthis was brought up in another thread, but i thought it should have its own thread.
feel free to add your own observations and experience.
the jws are so duplicit, and they rename things to somehow justify their own irrationalities.
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Muddy Waters
Or, They're not prophets, but during the great tribulation, the nations shall know "that a prophet had been in their midst."
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JW renaming things: "It's Not this, it's ....."
by Muddy Waters inthis was brought up in another thread, but i thought it should have its own thread.
feel free to add your own observations and experience.
the jws are so duplicit, and they rename things to somehow justify their own irrationalities.
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Muddy Waters
Thought of another one:
It's not masturbation, it's self-abuse.
Good grief.
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1975 and the burning question/s??
by UnshackleTheChains inok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.
the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.
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Muddy Waters
I know, Chook! It's absolutely crazy! Are they TRYING to wake people up??!!??
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JW renaming things: "It's Not this, it's ....."
by Muddy Waters inthis was brought up in another thread, but i thought it should have its own thread.
feel free to add your own observations and experience.
the jws are so duplicit, and they rename things to somehow justify their own irrationalities.
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Muddy Waters
These are great, so true!
Pontoon, I am so sorry, I meant to like your post and my finger slipped on the dislike by mistake! And then I thought I could "toggle" it off, and then, eek, 2 dislikes showed up! I've hit "like" so hopefully it's all sorted out!! 😳
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JW renaming things: "It's Not this, it's ....."
by Muddy Waters inthis was brought up in another thread, but i thought it should have its own thread.
feel free to add your own observations and experience.
the jws are so duplicit, and they rename things to somehow justify their own irrationalities.
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Muddy Waters
This was brought up in another thread, but I thought it should have its own thread. Feel free to add your own observations and experience. The JWs are so duplicit, and they rename things to somehow justify their own irrationalities.
For example:
It's not a party, it's a get-together!
It's not a shower, it's a Welcome New Baby (or bride) celebration!
It's not a pagan wedding ring, it's a symbol of our love!
It's not a funeral, it's a "memorial talk"!
It's not a Christmas dinner, it's a meal with turkey we eat at Christmas (or Thanksgiving).
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and the *worst* - hesitate to even say these:
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It's not rape, it's fornication (especially if one did not scream).
It's not a criminal act of child sexual abuse, it's sin.
It's not domestic abuse, it's a matter of needing more subjection and respect for headship.
It's not a life-saving treatment, it's an abuse of blood.
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Question for those who went to the RC
by joe134cd ini'm just curious with all the happy clapping that is now going on with the singing at the conventions.
what has been the reaction to it with the r&f.
has anyone ever commented that it reminded them of a pentecostal revival meeting.
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Muddy Waters
Omg, Outlaw! So true!
It's not a party, it's a get-together!
It's not a shower, it's a Welcome New Baby (or bride) celebration!
It's not a pagan wedding ring, it's a symbol of our love!
It's not a funeral, it's a "memorial talk"
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and the *worst* - hesitate to even say these:
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It's not rape, it's fornication (especially if one did not scream)
It's not a criminal act of child sexual abuse, it's sin
It's not domestic abuse, it's a matter of needing more subjection and respect for headship
It's not a life-saving treatment, it's an abuse of blood
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PS -- You know, I think these should be collected in a new thread and we can all add to them.... Which I have just done:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5728687389409280/jw-renaming-things-this
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March 22, 2017 TO ALL CONVENTION COMMITTEES Re: Discontinuation of Physical Distribution of Convention Releases
by wifibandit inmarch 22, 2017 to all convention committees re: discontinuation of physical distribution of convention releases.
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Muddy Waters
The letter said they would stop the physical distribution of books at Conventions. But also said people could still order a physical copy of a release through their congregation, which I imagine will also be heavily discouraged, due to cost or such.
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A review of the WT study, "Do not let your love grow cold."
by doubtfull1799 ina while ago someone (i forget who) was doing a series, a regular analysis, of wt studies from the current week.
i have't seen any for a while so i thought i'd contribute one.
have a bit of fun picking out all the unsubstantiated assertions and logical fallacies etc... so here goes: (if you enjoy it let me know and i might try doing another.
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Muddy Waters
Nice work and summation, and explanations of all the logical fallacies - I am learning to spot errors like this, too, and isn't it great to recognize a false argument?!?
A while back we had a lady trying to get us into her MLM scheme (don't even know why we gave her the time of day) and she kept saying, "But don't you want to make a better life for yourself and your *grandchildren* by having more available money, etc...." which I immediately recognized as emotional manipulation, yay, and told her so! She had no response to that, ha.
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Am I selfish?
by Jules Saturn intonight i had an argument with both my parents.
my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.
they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.
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Muddy Waters
The WT uses fear, obligation, and guilt -- F.O.G. -- which keeps their members controlled. There is no climate for doubt, for questions, for open discussion. There is no transparency or accounting, no apologies for "unclarified light". They take and they take and they take without ever giving anything back in terms of practical help or assistance.
We can be the change we want to see... We can be the ones who show love and tolerance... We can be off the man-inspired and directed WT treadmill which goes nowhere.
Your indoctrination, and their reactions (very JW-typical) makes you feel "selfish" but hopefully you can question & rationalize those feelings. All the best.